Comments on: LOST 6×14 “The Candidate” https://jasoncollin.org/2010/05/04/lost-6x14-the-candidate/ The website for Jason Collin featuring his photography and movie & TV show reviews Sun, 09 May 2010 20:24:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.20 By: Jason Collin https://jasoncollin.org/2010/05/04/lost-6x14-the-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-1174 Sun, 09 May 2010 20:24:50 +0000 http://jasoncollin.org/?p=1628#comment-1174 Yes, it’s true Sun is a bad person and pounded someone else and did other things. Somehow though, she makes it easy for me to forget those things and forgive her. Jin is a solid character and has been unflappable with his honor on the island. So got roughed up when he had to see Sun get pinned like that and had to accept her and his fate. Did it with honor.

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By: Steve-O https://jasoncollin.org/2010/05/04/lost-6x14-the-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-1173 Sun, 09 May 2010 15:55:33 +0000 http://jasoncollin.org/?p=1628#comment-1173 I thought 4.5 starts, but gave 5. I agree that Jack’s transformation has been slow enough – too slow for me, as I relate most to his character. These last few episodes should be great.

As for Jin and Sun, I breathed a sigh of relief when Sun was finally killed. I haven’t liked her character from the start. There have just been glimpses of likeableness. I think that stems from my inherent, “don’t just sit there and cry, yell out helplessly and whine – DO something!” Much doing will come to pass in the next episodes.

I liked Lapidus. Hope he pops up later.

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By: Jason Collin https://jasoncollin.org/2010/05/04/lost-6x14-the-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 Thu, 06 May 2010 17:42:28 +0000 http://jasoncollin.org/?p=1628#comment-1172 Damon and Carlton explained why they killed off Sun, Jin and Sayid here:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/04/lost-producers-actors-candidate/

Basically to show how bad Flocke/MIB is and his “malevolence. They did not mention anything about Frank Lapedious being dead. If he his, the everyone on the beach did not have screen time enough to ask about Frank, and I think once you hear the news that people so close to you just died, it does not occur to you to think of asking about someone you hardly know, especially since Jack and Hurley were not around Frank as much as Sun was.

Can’t just have red shirts dying, that will never get us angry at Flocke/MIB.

Can’t believe all you guys having more feeling over loser Charlie dying! I felt nothing when he went.

The mannish chick with glasses I think is very cleverly referred to by some as “dirty Tina Fey.”

Jack could be the last one left standing, but maybe with Hurley as his Richard Alpert/advisor.

Ah, and I think they did give enough time showing Jack’s coming around. I think it started with the season 4 finale with him saying to Kate at the airport’s edge at night that we’ve got to go back to the island. He became a believer in the island then. Richard showing that they cannot be killed further solidified that. Seeing himself in the mirror at the lighthouse as well.

I have a feeling I may be giving 5-star ratings to all 3 remaining episodes.

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By: Can. Mike https://jasoncollin.org/2010/05/04/lost-6x14-the-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-1171 Thu, 06 May 2010 14:41:18 +0000 http://jasoncollin.org/?p=1628#comment-1171 Yeah things are really moving now. A very good ep. overall, but somehow just not quite in the 5 star range.

Finally, FINALLY flocke does some bad-ass stuff instead of just seethe and whine in seeming impotence, and finally we learn once and for all that he is NOT the good guy to Widmore’s bad guy. Slightly disappointed about that actually as I’ve never liked Widmore as a character. Whole different story as an actor of course, but he’s never been made out to be even slightly likable or ‘good’ in any of the previous seasons…

Jack really stepped up suddenly, and while I really like the new Jack (acting like the previously likable Locke in earlier seasons) it’s still a bit too sudden for me. I feel they should’ve built up Jack’s new wisdom and understanding in a more gradual way. Still, can’t complain too much as now all of a sudden, JACK is the most interesting and likable character on the show for me (except for the incorruptible Hurley), replacing my previous favs of Locke (just can’t like this Flocke character at all really), Sayid (now dead) and Sawyer, who has failed in every respect possible this entire season.

Sawyer is done I feel, past redemption really. He lost the woman he loves and has since been out-conned, the thing he does best, at every single turn this season. When he wasn’t trying to take charge he was whining and complaining. A waste of a good character really, but I guess the writers want to make Jack’s path to the top very clear and obstacle free. Sawyer was really the only other character with the leadership skills to compete with Jack. How will Sawyer live with himself knowing that he’s responsible for Sun and Jin’s death, not to mention Sayid and Frank. I’ve got the feeling Sawyer is not going to make it to the end of the series.

Good death for Sayid, and glad he redeemed himself by turning back to the light, and giving Jack Desmond’s whereabouts. Total foreshadowing in Sayid’s comment saying to Jack ‘it’s going to be you Jack’, although we’ve known all along that Jack is THE main character of LOST, so no big surprise.

I’m with UK a bit on Jin and Sun. Not that their death wasn’t moving, but it seemed unnecessary somehow, like the writers just wanted an excuse to write them out of the show. More foreshadowing I feel, if Jin and Sun can be so quickly and suddenly taken out, I’m wondering if everyone except Jack will die before the end? If Jack is to be the new Jacob, he’s probably not going to get helpers. And it seems very unlikely that the others will escape now that the sub is gone and no Frank to fly the plane (plus there is no way I’m going to believe that plane would ever fly again anyway).
I agree with Jason in that there is NO WAY Jin would ever be able to look at himself again if he swam away and left his wife to drown, who he just found again after (relative) years of seperation. At least I would never be able to look at myself again. I would totally have done what Jin did.
Still, for me Charlie’s death seemed somehow more meaningful, more emotional, not really sure why. Maybe because Jin and Sun’s death seemed so hasty, and served no purpose to whatever the final end will be. There was no sacrifice for them, they just died.

It’s a small point, but the small things bother me. I was annoyed that none of the survivors shed a single tear or even mentioned Frank, who was so steadfast. Hurley wanted to save Sayid, and cried over Jin and Sun, Kate asked only about Jin and Sun, but nothing, and no good death scene for Frank. Guess he was just too much a minor character after all.

Like you guys I was awed by the side story, though a bit action-less and dull, the acting and emotion were top notch. The scenes with Jack and Locke were pure gold.

At the end of the show Kate seemed to be totally healed and fine from being shot, and almost catatonic in the sub. I guess a swim up from the depths of the ocean will do wonders for that kind of thing. For a brief second after she got shot I thought Kate was dead. Still wondering if she’ll survive to the end though, but since she’s pretty much got second billing on the show, and is the main female lead, maybe she will. As usual she did nothing at all in this ep. I cant even remember the last time Kate was useful.

Was very glad to see ‘doughboy’ kick it. He and mannish chick with glasses are almost unbearably annoying to me. One down one to go.

Really liked Bernard’s little cameo in this ep.!! The way he said ‘of course Jack’ was awesome.

Ben, Richard and Miles???? They’re out there somewhere forgotten, but I suppose they’ll have their moment soon, maybe next ep?

Would give the ep. 4 and a half stars if I could, but since I cant will give it a 4. Just can’t see my way to giving it that elusive 5.

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