LOST 6×06 “Sundown”
March 3, 2010 · Print This Article
A Sayid-centric episode. I have always been very interested in Sayid. I like his quiet demeanor and ability to handle himself in any situation. Review continues after the break with spoilers.
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I was excited that it was a Sayid flash sideways this time. The storyline it took was a bit too cliche though. Badass family member returns. Brother is in trouble with bad dudes. Sayid with ass kicking ability in to take care of it. This episode was definitely a diminishing returns one. Was stoked at first, then merely excited, then wondering what exactly in the storyline was progressed this episode besides a few no reason deaths. We all knew the smoke monster (Flocke) was coming. All there was, was some broohaha first before its entrance.
WHAT I LIKED:
- There being no blood on the knife when Flocke pulled it out of his chest.
- Sayid shooting the one-time mercenary, not cutting a deal…badass.
- Pulling a cool dagger out of a plant box
- Miles continuing to live on
- The glimpse of Jack in the hospital
WHAT I DID NOT LIKE:
- The Rome chick, Ben & company showing up out of nowhere
- Sayid drowning Dogen, and just trying to understand Sayid’s motivations in general
- No real plot advancement at all, no answers still
- Why does Flocke want anybody to leave the island with him anyway?
- Crazy Claire – enough of singing lullabies to inanimate objects
- Jin in the meat locker, or do I actually like that?
- The false sense that there was action in this episode, many die, but no real action took place
Big question that occurred to me….if Sayid loved Nadia so much, how could he fall for that fool Shannon so quickly?
As I mentioned above, was really big on this episode at first, but by the time LOST thumped onto the screen at the end, I was thinking was this a good episode at all? I’ll give it 3-stars, but maybe really should only garner 2-stars.
I think what I really do not like is seeing the same actor play a different character, as in Terry O’Quinn playing Locke and now Flocke, just confusing and gimmicky. Now maybe Sayid is not really Sayid. Same for Claire. But when you still see Flocke you have sympathy for him maybe because you see Locke’s face. Really annoying. Feels like a HEROES level gimmick to me.
I`m surprised you didn`t like this episode, since I thought it was excellent. Saieed kicked ass unremittingly and without apology. That`s what I want to see.
From the beginning was calling out at the screen as Saieed and Dogen whup each other. Everybody was annoyed by Dogen- just another dude guarding what info he knew and only doling it out in tiny chunks. We`re sick of people like that, and so I loved it that Saieed did so well against him. and of course, killed him ultimately, and his damn annoying John Lennon sidekick.
Excellent. Loved it. About time somebody did that. Also got to enjoy Kate slamming the sidekick into the wall and yelling- `now!`
Dark Saieed, I`m liking it. It`s all the better because he really did try to do the `good` thing. This is why I liked his side story too. In that he is trying to be a reformed man. He tries to stand back, be there for the kids. But if you put him in the situation where he has to kick ass, he will do it stone cold.
Was great to see Keemy again. I always liked that guy. He`s badass too. And crazy eyes. And great eggs! Again was yelling at the screen for Saieed to end him. So glad he did.
As for plot advancement, this was a lynchpin episode I think. The sides are pretty much delineated.
With Jacob- Lapidus, Sun, Hurley, Jack, Ilyana, Ben, Miles.
With Evil Locke- Saieed, Claire, Sawyer, Jin (?), Kate (?)
These are the sides we`re going to see going into the finale against each other. We know why most of them have chosen those sides, and what motivates them. Saieed is doing it for love. Sawyer to get the hell away. Claire for her baby. Jack to just heal himself an ddo what`s right.
Each of these are unswayable. Once Saieed thinks he can get Nadia back, I`m pretty sure nothing will stop him. He would kill Jack without a moment`s hesitation. He`d probably say sorry as he did it, but would still do it.
Great scene where Ben realizes what Saieed has done, sees the blood on the blade, and runs the hell away. Saieed as damn creepy.
Feel like they`ll have to start bringing the side stories and the current story into alignment pretty soon.
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Jason Collin Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Seeing Sayid be a badass is cool, but not enough for me. Seeing the Sol Star-weak-Lennon looking dude get ended was satisfying. But in the end those were the sources of what little answers we were getting and Sayid made sure no more answers came forth. I don’t think Flocke (as they call him on LOSTcast) is going to be dolling out any answers anytime soon. Just pie in the sky promises.
Again, why in the world does Flocke want people to join him? Especially if they were once followers of Jacob. Guess to just kill them? Seems petty for a being so powerful, just leave the island and go be evil in the real world instead of picking on some hippies in a jungle.
I would guess Kate is going along with Flocke thinking maybe she can still hookup with Sawyer.
The only intrigue I see with the proposed sides you mentioned is Jin having to face Sun on opposite sides. Did we see Jin with Flocke at the end of the episode? Don’t recall actually seeing him.
And I was thinking, Ben used to have some control or at least alliance with Flocke, as he could go into his secret closet room and summon the smoke monster to take out the mercenaries, etc. Is that because Jacob had dominion over the smoke monster (a kind of security system) but with Jacob gone Ben lost the ability to have any control over the smoke monster?
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Jei Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Jin was not with Flocke.
I thought the same thing about sides forming up but I think it will be a little more complicated with some more switching back and forth. Ben and Jack still need to pick sides, and there are still wild cards like Richard and Christian out there.
Still there should be some sort of balance so…
Team Flocke: Sayid, Sawyer, Claire, Kate, Jin, Ben
Team Jake: Hurley, Jack, Lepidus, Ilyana, Sun, Miles
Prediction:
Jin and Sun cancel and leave, Claire kills Ilyana but then goes with Sun who knows her baby, Hurley and Miles send all the people Sayid has killed after him, Ben takes out Lepidus, Hurley and Miles but goes down himself. Locke overpowers Flocke like Vader. Final 3 are Jack, Sawyer and Kate.
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Well, this ought to fulfill the request for FLocke to really be evil and for the struggle between him and Jacob to mean something.
As for me I was holding out for some real moral ambiguity–making Jacob the possible villain and Flocke just misunderstood–but I’ll take this too. I also wanted Sayid to get killed by Flocke in the temple to pay for his sins: that would have been unreal.
Sad to see Dogen and the Jet go. Surprised that Ben somehow survived. Loved that Miles keeps on truckin. Gotta hope he has something big to do.
Still digesting, but gotta say that immediately after the episode ended my adrenaline is pumping and that I am super excited for the next episode.
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Jason Collin Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I’m not exactly sure we can call Flocke evil yet. It just appears that Jacob was good and nurturing. But what if Jacob was keeping Richard in chains and Flocke in a kind of prison also (keeping him on the island)? But yeah, it does appear Jacob is on the good side. Ben long ago told the fab-5 when asked who they were, “we’re the good guys.”
Down to just a dozen hours for LOST to wrap things up.
Lots of LOST questions and answers here actually, going though it now, list questions that still need answers by show’s end:
http://scifiwire.com/2010/02/lost-questions-and-answer.php
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Yeah I’m still not COMPLETELY convinced of the good/evil equation here. Jacob surely isn’t a saint, and while Flocke is obviously not the good guy, is he really that much more evil that Jacob? What evil has Flocke (which sounds stupid) really done except clean up house a bit? Killed a few guys who we really know nothing about except that they were keeping the regulars prisoner? Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
Great Sayid episode, like Jason said, always an interesting and intriguing character. Doubly great to see him kicking ass, especially that Keemy guy, damn, can’t stand him and his huge ass teeth.
That creepy smile that Sayid gave Ben at the end of the ep…. wow, Ben was smart to take off like he did. I did feel kind of bad for Dogen though, his final story moved me a bit, and highlighted the fact that Jacob isn’t as pristine as we’re all thinking.
I wonder though if Sayid would’ve managed to kill Flocke if he actually stabbed him before he said ‘hello Sayid’. Dogen did say to kill him before he uttered anything at all.
Good to see John Lennon go down like the fool he is.
Kate was annoying as ever, and she has never looked more like a man as she did in this ep. Is she really going to join Flocke’s flock though? Somehow I doubt it.
And I doubt either Jin or Sawyer are really ‘evil’ now either as Sayid and Claire are the only ones currently infected.
The ‘rescue party’ of Sun, Ben, et al. was just too much of a cliche for me, didn’t like it, although I do like the fact (like everyone else) that Miles is still around, even though he is doing absolutely nothing (ie. playing solitare)
Finally, Jin in the meatlocker… just didnt work for me. However it seems to me that the pattern they’re working towards is that all the ‘main’ characters are being drawn closer and closer together in the ‘alternate’ world, obviously for some future purpose.
I liked this ep. but like Jason, not quite sure if it is worthy enough for a 4 star rating. Will give it a 3 again. Nothing has been above 3 for me so far this season.
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Jason Collin Reply:
March 9th, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Yeah, with you on not being sure exactly who the GOOD or BAD people are. I mean, Flocke does kill, so there is that. Then again, Jacob has not revealed much about himself. We only have that one conversation on the beach between Jacob and pre-Flocke dude to judge them by, other than the damn cryptic non-answers Jacob and Flocke have given this entire season!
LOST, you chose to end the show on a schedule to not run out of story, have filler, etc, I want to be WOWED every episode here on out, there are enough major questions that need to be answered still. Far too many for a 2-hour series finale. Wow me fools! If you can.
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